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PostSubject: Washington and St Louis agree to blockbuster   Sun Jun 28, 2009 4:37 pm

With an offense that still needs a little more help, and a team looking to the future, the caps have agreed to trade Prospects, Nicholas Tremblay, Travis Morin, John negrin along with Evgeni Nabakov, Juraj Kolnik and a first round draft pick in 2 years for Alexander Ovechkin and A. Vermette.

Washington gambles on its future a little while picking up a superstar and st louis picks up a real good prospect, 2 solid prospects, an up and coming winger and a solid goaltender.
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PostSubject: Re: Washington and St Louis agree to blockbuster   Sun Jun 28, 2009 4:39 pm

I agree to this trade. Ovechkin wasn't helping my team as much as I thought and I figured I shoudl start rebuilding now. Plus, I need a #1 goalie. Washington picks up a superstar and a solid 3rd line winger that should help them get into playoff contention.
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PostSubject: Re: Washington and St Louis agree to blockbuster   Sun Jun 28, 2009 6:54 pm

Wow... huge trade. St. Louis gets a lot of depth and potential, and Washington should have one of the most dangerous and explosive attacks in the East. Nice job guys!
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PostSubject: Re: Washington and St Louis agree to blockbuster   Sun Jun 28, 2009 7:01 pm

Good trade guys. So in the end, Ovechkin has made it back to Washington!

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PostSubject: Re: Washington and St Louis agree to blockbuster   Sun Jun 28, 2009 8:08 pm

Nicholas Tremblay - 6.0C
Travis Morin - 6.5D
John Negrin 6.5C
Evgeny Nabokov - 35 yrs old, 65 OV (.865 save percentage, 2.74 GAA)
Juraj Kolnik - 29 yrs old and (8 pts in 16 gms)

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Ovechkin - 25 yrs old, 76 OV (12 pts in 16 gms)
Vermette - who cares, he's an add on

So, you're wondering why I listed all these stats and shit, right? Well, here it goes...

This is a brutal trade, 3 prospects not rated higher than 6.5 which will get you roughly a 60-65 Ov player at most. Nabokov is old and Kolnik is as well. The best part of the trade is the 1st rounder, but after the acquisition of Ovechkin, I'll bet it'll be around 20th-25th overall.

I think this is a bad trade for the Blues but, and here's a BIG BUT!...

1-THE DEAL WAS AGREED ON BY BOTH GM'S

2-IT'S NOT A LOP-SIDED TRADE

3-THE COMMISH IS OK WITH IT

4-WHO FUCKING REALLY CARES, IT'S SIM HOCKEY!

I wish I would have known he was available, I could've made an offer better than that one but congrats to the Caps!
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PostSubject: Re: Washington and St Louis agree to blockbuster   Sun Jun 28, 2009 8:12 pm

Now that you break it down... I'm actually going to disagree with #2. it is kind of lopsided.
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PostSubject: Re: Washington and St Louis agree to blockbuster   Sun Jun 28, 2009 8:14 pm

not so lop-sided that it makes you wanna scream "what the fuck!!??"
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PostSubject: Re: Washington and St Louis agree to blockbuster   Sun Jun 28, 2009 8:22 pm

lol... no, it's not like a Mike Milbury orchestrated trade (Olli Jokinen and Roberto Luongo for Oleg Kvasha and Mark Parrish, anyone?)
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PostSubject: Re: Washington and St Louis agree to blockbuster   Sun Jun 28, 2009 8:24 pm

but this trade reminds me of one that happened a week or so ago...hmmm, wonder which trade that was...Staal....for someone's prospects....hmmmm...

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PostSubject: Re: Washington and St Louis agree to blockbuster   Sun Jun 28, 2009 8:26 pm

You say potato...
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PostSubject: Re: Washington and St Louis agree to blockbuster   Sun Jun 28, 2009 8:45 pm

I will never understand why star players get traed for next to nothing.

Honestly you could get a lot more than that for Ovechkin. Many teams would pay a hefty price just for his name. I personnaly do not want him because I just got Thornton and all, but you should really make a huge deal when you are trading a superstar.

But if the Carolina one was fair, which I still don't think, then this is a similar type trade, that I believe St. louis will regret in a few seasons, like I think Florida will regret trading away Staal.
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PostSubject: Re: Washington and St Louis agree to blockbuster   Mon Jun 29, 2009 7:49 pm

we all make deals we regret at one time or another...ask Doug Risebrough who is known in Leafland as the man that delivered Dougie Gilmour and resurrected the Leafs.

we can all second guess another GM's motives but at the end of the day, it's our team to build as we chose, and when trades become too lop-sided that's when James should step in.
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PostSubject: Re: Washington and St Louis agree to blockbuster   Tue Jun 30, 2009 6:34 pm

out of curiosity, who was gilmour traded for?
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PostSubject: Re: Washington and St Louis agree to blockbuster   Tue Jun 30, 2009 8:38 pm

* Traded to Toronto by Calgary with Jamie Macoun, Ric Nattress, Kent Manderville and Rick Wamsley for Gary Leeman, Alexander Godynyuk, Jeff Reese, Michel Petit and Craig Berube. January 2, 1992
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PostSubject: Re: Washington and St Louis agree to blockbuster   Tue Jun 30, 2009 11:20 pm

It hurt to be a Flames fan that day. Luckily, I was both a Flames AND a Toronto fan...

Not sure if it's of any consequence, but I hate this trade. A lot. It's a bunch of spare parts for star power and a very useful player.

Seriously, James turned down better offers than this before he traded him to the Blues.

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PostSubject: Re: Washington and St Louis agree to blockbuster   Tue Jun 30, 2009 11:21 pm

yup.
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PostSubject: Re: Washington and St Louis agree to blockbuster   Tue Jun 30, 2009 11:48 pm

I'd also like to point out that the Blues stated 'Ovechkin wasn't really helping his team'. He had him for five games, Ovie got five points. That's better than he was doing in Calgary for the first eleven.

Another thing to consider is that Ovie's MO was quite low, so it stands to reason that he'd struggle a bit. Players with a low MO are going to play a lot less than their ability than a player with a high MO would.

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PostSubject: Re: Washington and St Louis agree to blockbuster   Tue Jun 30, 2009 11:49 pm

i agree 100%
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PostSubject: Re: Washington and St Louis agree to blockbuster   Wed Jul 01, 2009 3:02 pm

while i understand the chatter in this thread, like its been said multiple times now, we both agreed to the trade AND james accepted it eearly in this thread. however, it is interesting to get a large perspective on the trade issue
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PostSubject: Re: Washington and St Louis agree to blockbuster   Wed Jul 01, 2009 5:14 pm

you had to know that this trade was going to be largely scrutinized by the GM's...it is what we do after all....LOL.
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PostSubject: Re: Washington and St Louis agree to blockbuster   Wed Jul 01, 2009 5:20 pm

haha oh i've got no problem with that and you're right, i expected it. but you had to expect me to defend myself a little bit haha.
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PostSubject: Re: Washington and St Louis agree to blockbuster   Wed Jul 01, 2009 5:21 pm

if this trade, or the one involving Staal went before a trade committee, they both would have been rejected. IMO
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PostSubject: Re: Washington and St Louis agree to blockbuster   Wed Jul 01, 2009 6:47 pm

you may certainly be right.


(yay for no TC ((yet))
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