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James Admin
Number of posts : 435 Age : 33 Location : Sudbury, ON Registration date : 2009-03-10
| Subject: Season 6 Re-signing Table (suggestion) Fri Sep 11, 2009 2:17 am | |
| Well here's a table I've come up with for re-signings, let me know what you think.
OV------------------Yearly Salary (excluding signing bonuses) < 55------------------$500,000 to $900,000 55 to 59--------------$800,000 to $1,100,000 60 to 62--------------$1,000,000 to $1,500,000 63 to 65--------------$1,400,000 to $2,300,000 66 to 68--------------$2,200,000 to $3,900,000 69 to 71--------------$3,800,000 to $6,400,000 72 to 74--------------$6,300,000 to $8,900,000 > 75------------------$8,800,000 to $10,000,000
I'd like to hear some opinions on this, whether it looks reasonable or not.
Also, I am considering allowing GM's to offer contracts when creating prospects. Salaries would vary from $500,000 to $850,000, so if you could post thoughts on both of these matters that would be great, thanks! | |
| | | Duckies-GM Admin
Number of posts : 131 Age : 50 Location : North of Hell, South of Heaven Registration date : 2009-03-09
| Subject: Re: Season 6 Re-signing Table (suggestion) Fri Sep 11, 2009 3:53 am | |
| Personally, I like the Commish dishing out the contracts for created specs. If the player already has an NHL contract, it would make sense to use that one, while if the player doesn't, perhaps just an entry level contract would be sufficient, dependent on the player's age. | |
| | | Carolina_GM
Number of posts : 108 Age : 55 Registration date : 2009-04-03
| Subject: Re: Season 6 Re-signing Table (suggestion) Fri Sep 11, 2009 4:56 am | |
| at first glance it looks like the max salary is too high, but i guess that they`re arent too many players that are 75 OV or higher. as for prospects, i think we should hand them entry level contracts of about $850,000 | |
| | | James Admin
Number of posts : 435 Age : 33 Location : Sudbury, ON Registration date : 2009-03-10
| Subject: Re: Season 6 Re-signing Table (suggestion) Fri Sep 11, 2009 3:07 pm | |
| - Duckies-GM wrote:
- Personally, I like the Commish dishing out the contracts for created specs. If the player already has an NHL contract, it would make sense to use that one, while if the player doesn't, perhaps just an entry level contract would be sufficient, dependent on the player's age.
That would involve creating another table, no? It's not a problem, I'm just wondering if that's what you're suggesting. - Carolina_GM wrote:
- at first glance it looks like the max salary is
too high, but i guess that they`re arent too many players that are 75 OV or higher. as for prospects, i think we should hand them entry level contracts of about $850,000 That's been the max salary since season 1, and yes there aren't a hell of a lot of 75+ OV players. | |
| | | habs1909
Number of posts : 256 Age : 32 Location : Montreal Qc Registration date : 2009-03-25
| Subject: Re: Season 6 Re-signing Table (suggestion) Fri Sep 11, 2009 5:44 pm | |
| if we choose this system we have no choice but within that frame right | |
| | | Duckies-GM Admin
Number of posts : 131 Age : 50 Location : North of Hell, South of Heaven Registration date : 2009-03-09
| Subject: Re: Season 6 Re-signing Table (suggestion) Fri Sep 11, 2009 6:47 pm | |
| - James wrote:
- Duckies-GM wrote:
- Personally, I like the Commish dishing out the contracts for created specs. If the player already has an NHL contract, it would make sense to use that one, while if the player doesn't, perhaps just an entry level contract would be sufficient, dependent on the player's age.
That would involve creating another table, no? It's not a problem, I'm just wondering if that's what you're suggesting. No, no...just go by the NHL standard. I'll have to find it for ya, but it's basic. The idea is that you have a max entry level contract of about....$850k, I think? You can add SB's to take care of the 'elite' specs. ie, Kane and Toews were well over the $3M mark if I recall, based on the fact that they were elite prospects. | |
| | | James Admin
Number of posts : 435 Age : 33 Location : Sudbury, ON Registration date : 2009-03-10
| Subject: Re: Season 6 Re-signing Table (suggestion) Sat Sep 12, 2009 2:36 pm | |
| - habs1909 wrote:
- if we choose this system we have no choice but within that frame right
Right. | |
| | | habs1909
Number of posts : 256 Age : 32 Location : Montreal Qc Registration date : 2009-03-25
| Subject: Re: Season 6 Re-signing Table (suggestion) Sat Sep 12, 2009 4:00 pm | |
| if the numbers can be adjusted to a little less i could see it working, a good improvement would be like say over 71, it is garenteed over 6.5 mil a year and from 71 onwards its negotiable, forcing 9 mil is pretty steep | |
| | | James Admin
Number of posts : 435 Age : 33 Location : Sudbury, ON Registration date : 2009-03-10
| Subject: Re: Season 6 Re-signing Table (suggestion) Sun Sep 13, 2009 1:34 am | |
| 72 to 74--------------$6,300,000 to $8,900,000 > 75------------------$8,800,000 to $10,000,000
Go out and name the guys who could earn 9 million, then tell me if they're not worth it. | |
| | | nordiquesgm
Number of posts : 15 Age : 37 Registration date : 2009-03-26
| Subject: Re: Season 6 Re-signing Table (suggestion) Sun Sep 13, 2009 6:50 pm | |
| I'll begin with Mr. Crosby. He isn't even a ppg player. Doesn't deserve more than 7-8 millions and that's good for everybody on earth until the cap is increased. | |
| | | habs1909
Number of posts : 256 Age : 32 Location : Montreal Qc Registration date : 2009-03-25
| Subject: Re: Season 6 Re-signing Table (suggestion) Sun Sep 13, 2009 7:11 pm | |
| its been a while since we've heard from the nords gm. i agree the ovrall isnt the only important stat, we need a bit of room to play with, kane will cost a fortune at some point since the super camp raised his stats so young | |
| | | James Admin
Number of posts : 435 Age : 33 Location : Sudbury, ON Registration date : 2009-03-10
| Subject: Re: Season 6 Re-signing Table (suggestion) Mon Sep 14, 2009 8:26 pm | |
| That's actually a very fair point Dave. That's why I did negotiating myself, but with complaints about "ridiculous contracts", I figured there needs to be some kind of set system.
I will keep this table for the time being but work on one that includes salary based on performance as well. | |
| | | habs1909
Number of posts : 256 Age : 32 Location : Montreal Qc Registration date : 2009-03-25
| Subject: Re: Season 6 Re-signing Table (suggestion) Mon Sep 14, 2009 10:00 pm | |
| we got quite a bit of time to decide and work things out | |
| | | IslesGM
Number of posts : 79 Age : 41 Registration date : 2009-03-27
| Subject: Re: Season 6 Re-signing Table (suggestion) Wed Sep 16, 2009 10:38 pm | |
| I can see some tweaking done, but overall it's a good table | |
| | | stadnyk
Number of posts : 113 Age : 51 Location : Thunder Bay, Ontario Registration date : 2009-04-14
| Subject: Re: Season 6 Re-signing Table (suggestion) Wed Sep 16, 2009 11:38 pm | |
| would this be in effect before or after rerates? | |
| | | James Admin
Number of posts : 435 Age : 33 Location : Sudbury, ON Registration date : 2009-03-10
| Subject: Re: Season 6 Re-signing Table (suggestion) Thu Sep 17, 2009 12:01 am | |
| - stadnyk wrote:
- would this be in effect before or after rerates?
This would be for next season when trade negotiations start up again. So quite a while after re-rates. | |
| | | James Admin
Number of posts : 435 Age : 33 Location : Sudbury, ON Registration date : 2009-03-10
| Subject: Re: Season 6 Re-signing Table (suggestion) Thu Sep 24, 2009 11:44 pm | |
| I can't think of a way to implement scoring into this. Just because a player has a bad season, doesn't mean they are not worth the money their overall might assign them.
Similarly, a player who overachieves may just be a one-time wonder. | |
| | | James Admin
Number of posts : 435 Age : 33 Location : Sudbury, ON Registration date : 2009-03-10
| Subject: Re: Season 6 Re-signing Table (suggestion) Thu Oct 22, 2009 12:23 pm | |
| - James wrote:
- OV------------------Yearly Salary (excluding signing bonuses)
< 55------------------$500,000 to $900,000 55 to 59--------------$800,000 to $1,100,000 60 to 62--------------$1,000,000 to $1,500,000 63 to 65--------------$1,400,000 to $2,300,000 66 to 68--------------$2,200,000 to $3,900,000 69 to 71--------------$3,800,000 to $6,400,000 72 to 74--------------$6,300,000 to $8,900,000 > 75------------------$8,800,000 to $10,000,000 Ok well I don't see a problem with this table to be honest. Also, based on age, a player may accept a lower salary within their range. For example, you have an 21-year old coming off an entry level contract, maybe he still has rookie status, and he's a 67 OV. He may be willing to accept closer to $2,200,000, whereas a player of that OV in their prime (mid-late 20's; early-mid 30's) may be looking toward the higher end of their payroll range ($3,900,000). | |
| | | James Admin
Number of posts : 435 Age : 33 Location : Sudbury, ON Registration date : 2009-03-10
| Subject: Re: Season 6 Re-signing Table (suggestion) Thu Oct 22, 2009 2:15 pm | |
| I've also considered that salary will be affected by number of years offered. | |
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